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July 1, 2004
Biden Goes Off

Joseph Biden (D - Delaware) from a an interview with Rolling Stone:

I was in the Oval Office the other day, and the president asked me what I would do about resignations. I said, "Look, Mr. President, would I keep Rumsfeld? Absolutely not." And I turned to Vice President Cheney, who was there, and I said, "Mr. Vice President, I wouldn't keep you if it weren't constitutionally required." I turned back to the president and said, "Mr. President, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld are bright guys, really patriotic, but they've been dead wrong on every major piece of advice they've given you. That's why I'd get rid of them, Mr. President -- not just Abu Ghraib." They said nothing. Just sat like big old bullfrogs on a log and looked at me.

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About six months ago, the president said to me, "Well, at least I make strong decisions, I lead." I said, "Mr. President, look behind you. Leaders have followers. No one's following. Nobody."

Rolling Stone

Damn!

The president's paltry approval numbers of late are certainly giving some Democrats some balls. It would be really nice if more of them would tell it like it is no matter what the poll numbers were, but that's just a sweet, sweet dream.

Via Gadflyer.

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