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March 31, 2005
Finally, R.I.P. Terri Schiavo

The New York Times > Schiavo Dies Nearly Two Weeks After Removal of Feeding Tube

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Found this on flynnfiles.com

The 128th trimester abortion of Terri Schiavo is complete. With the law forbidding saline or vacuums for adults, Florida's courts prescribed starvation and thirst. Like the million or so annual victims of abortion, Terri Schiavo couldn't speak in her defense. Those who did, of course, are fanatics and screwballs. How dare they try to bring a glass of water to a woman dying of thirst? Arrest them! Who, after all, has the right to defend another's life--especially a life not equal to our own? Animal lives, experimented upon by doctors attempting to save people, are more worthy of our protest than Terri Schiavo's life. So too are the lives of murderers and child rapists. Ditto for terrorists in Guantanamo Bay. But a life that makes us feel bad, that bothers us, that inconveniences us--that is a life that should be killed. Isn't that the message of this whole sad affair?

Oh give me a break Mike. What religious right blog did you steal that from? Get the facts straight. The law was clearly in Micheal's favor. When you guys preach about values, Micheal had the most out of anyone. He stuck by his wife for countless years while her parents continued harass him by ignoring the law. I love how the Republicans were preaching about the 'value' and 'integrity' of marriage a few months ago and now they are completly ignoring the 'value' and 'integrity' of a marriage just for personal gain. My props to Micheal for staying with it for these many years and following through with what Terri wanted while continuly being harassed by his parents and other people who know so little about her.

whoops, i guess i already know what religious right wing blog you got it from

As usual, Mike, the garbage you're dumping on my lawn is stinking and filled with manure. The passage you quote is completely reactionary, totally biased, and ignores every single rule of law relevant to this case. This case was not about sympathy for Terri Schiavo or her family, something just about everyone has plenty of, it was a matter of law. Conservatives exploited it shamelessly for political gain.

Finally, it's over. You guys can get back to lying about Social Security and being afraid of gay people now.

A quote from the Guardian Ad Litem's report:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/schiavo/1203galrpt.pdf

"Our society is at a legal, political, biotechnological, bioethical and spiritual crossroad. Theresa Schiavo is alternately depicted as a living, loving person, capable of interacting at a level of cognition with her family and deserving of the right to continue to live--and as a tragically and profoundly brain damaged person, who earlier expressed a desire never to find herself in a circumstance analogous to waking up in a coffin--and being there forever. But she cannot speak to us now. So we must rely upon the auspices of good law and good medicine and the good intentions of those who marshal these arts in order to do our best to do the right thing well for Theresa Schiavo."

The legal and medical evidence is clear in this case: the position advocated by Michael Schiavo was upheld by the courts in Florida and all due justice was done in the case of Theresa Schiavo.

However, one should not discount the emotional reponses raised by these events and accuse the other side of having less than the best in mind for Theresa Schiavo. While the law and modern medicine were not on their side, I do not blame the Schindler's their grief and their desire that their daughter continue to live. I hope that in the future they come to terms with these events and come to the kind of peace advocated by Michael Schiavo.

A lot of the "religious right" people who were against the execution of Terri by the Florida courts as well as the hospice center, might tell all of you "I hope you never have to be put into that kind of situation where you would have to make that kind of decision." I would rather say something like, "I hope you are put into that situation." Only then will you truly be able to understand the fight. Everyone has an opinion, but that is it, just an opinion. The government did what the constitution gives the government the power to do, "check and balance." I know that people would like to take a white out pen to the parts of the constitution that they don't agree with, and the way things are going, that may very well happen. But it isn't that way yet, and our laws and processes are based on the whole constitution, not the parts people like.

Adios, Terri. If only she knew what a whirlwind she spent her last weeks within. Strange to imagine yourself in that situation... with your 15 minutes and none the wiser. Her husband's strength in this ordeal is impressive. He fought for Terri and then fought for Terri's wishes; fought politicians; fought pro-life fanatics. He had the law on his side, but more importantly than that, he was doing right by his partner who could no longer do right for herself.

Anthony, I am sorry, you are right you never put biased stuff on this site. For the record Anthony, I am NOT a republican. But I do not tow the line for every foolish idea that a party has. I think for myself and have various ideas on issues that cover both parties. Some like to follow other and not think for themselves, I like to make up my own mind. I don't believe I have ever written about let alone lied about social security on this site. To tell you the truth I don't ever want to plan on needing it. I invest and prepare for my own retirement. S.S. will be for going to Vegas and saying "hit me."

I do like to see how people react when I introduce an opposing viewpoint. It is called garbage and I am automatically accused of agreeing with it. Check out the site, while yeas there are some religious blogs there, most are not and the topics vary. Flynnfiles is pretty conservative so liberals beware you might find yourself profusly sweating and getting very angry at your computer screens.Try to calm yourselfs, there are other opinions besides you own out there, and they are not always stupid ones.

It was not only the religious right that were for keeping her alive nor only the liberal left that were for allowing her to die peaceably. Last I checked about 70 percent of the population was with Mr. Schiavo, and we all know that neither party has that type of support.

Jimmy o, and Fritz seem to have a moderate approach to this issue, and it is commendable. The U.S. Constitution, whether you agree or not can be a living constituion adaptable to how society feels about an issue. Some amendments take a short while to get ratified and others have taken almost 200 years (the 27th).

So you are afraid of gay people, then..

Seriously, Mike, thou dost protest too much.

I never claimed to be unbiased. Clearly, I'm not, nor do I try to come off that way on this site. If you think you're unbiased, you're mistaken. Your comments consistently reveal strong biases.

Posting screeds like the quote from flynnfiles with no comment and then going after people for "accusing you of agreeing" with what you posted is asinine and childish, as are your lame little "libbrulls are angry" canards.

Look in the mirror, Mike. You are what you think you hate.

Either...

1) She's long gone already (com'on, she's been dead for 15 years!), which makes the entire ordeal utterly pointless, or...

2) I'm glad she has finally been relieved from this crappy world of ours (which is getting crappier and crappier)...

Anthony
I Forgot to mention the homosexual community. Sorry about that. I will take the standard American stance on that topic and say as long as they don't affect me too much they can do what they want.
I said that i was not a republican. I did not however say I was not conservative, that I am. I am not a liberal as they tend to complain a litle too muh with out giving a decent solution to any problem. I still don't remember spelling "libbrulls" is that way although I have made minor spellign errors before. That might be a slight from you.

Regardless of where you come down on this relatively irrelevant issue, I think it's worth pointing out, as a general matter, it's not a good basis of judgment to wonder how you'd feel in Terri's parents' shoes. This is almost exactly the wrong way to evaluate anything, through a lens of anguish and distortion. It's equivalent to asking how you might feel about capital punishment if somebody had just recently raped and murdered your 3-year-old daughter. Issues are most often best addressed in one's clearest, most lucid state of mind. There's a story I think of. The man said to H.L. Mencken, "You know, Mr. Mencken, there are no atheists on the battlefield." And Mencken replied, "That merely proves that battlefields are not conducive to rational thought."

Yes indeed.